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	Post #1 2005-07-03 01:23 (3 lata temu)
Uczestnik nie jest zarejestrowany	Wielka Brytania -Pracownik – nie zostanie ukarany Pracodawca – może zostać ukarany grzywną, do 5 tysięcy funtów za każdą zatrudnioną nielegalnie osobę. Irlandia- Pracownik – jeżeli urząd skarbowy zostanie poinformowany o tym, że pracujemy na czarno, wyśle do nas upomnienie o zapłacenie zaległych podatków. Kolejny krok, to wezwanie do zapłaty z konkretnym terminem płatności. Jeśli to nie poskutkuje, sprawa trafia do sądu. Osobom zatrudnionym nielegalnie za karę nie przysługują żadne ulgi i muszą zapłacić 42 procentowy podatek. Niekiedy wymierza się także grzywnę Pracodawca – jest karany podobnie jak pracownik


Anonim	Post #2 2005-07-03 13:06 (3 lata temu)
Uczestnik nie jest zarejestrowany	w UK - deportacja. ewentualnie zplacenia zaleglego podatku i NI.


	Post #3 2005-07-03 13:11 (3 lata temu)
Uczestnik nie jest zarejestrowany	To sa mozliwosci ktore rzadko sa brane pod uwage (ale czasami sa)


Anonim	Post #4 2005-07-15 15:52 (3 lata temu)
Uczestnik nie jest zarejestrowany	No to juz nie rozumiem? Deportacja czy kara dla pracodawcy? I co to znaczy rzadko brane pod uwage? Znacie jakies przyklady? A dlaczego nie warto pracowac na czarno? Pozdruffka


Anonim	Post #5 2005-07-15 19:40 (3 lata temu)
Uczestnik nie jest zarejestrowany	bo 1. nie placisz podatkow i jak cie IR w koncu dopadnie to bedziesz miec przesrane 2. nie placisz NI wiec jesli zdecydujesz sie np zostac w UK to albo bedziesz musial doplacic sobie do funduszu emerytalnego, albo tej emerytury nie dostaniesz. to samo w PL - czas przepracowany na czarno tutaj nie bedzie sie liczyl do emerytury... 3. twoje prawa pracownika sa zerowe, nie istnieja. jesli wywala cie z pracy to nawet nie mozesz sie odwolac. jak nagle zachorujesz i bedziesz niezdolny do pracy to nie dostaniesz zadej zapomogi. jak przydarzy ci sie wypadek w pracy to predzej cie wywala na zbity pysk niz zaplaca odszkodowanie. 4. nie masz numeru NI, wiec zycie w UK ogolnie bedzie raczej problemowe Some employers may offer you a job without paying National Insurance or tax (known as “cash in hand”). This is against the law. If they are breaking this law, it is very likely they will break other employment laws as well, especially those that protect workers. It will be very hard for you to enforce any of your legal rights if you are not working legally. You should avoid this type of job. Note that your employer does not need to keep your passport or identity documents, and has no right to hold them. They may make copies of them for their records. "My employer wants to pay me cash in hand. Is it a good idea? It may sound good, you don't have to bother with all those boring payslips and you get a fatter pay packet. But for one thing it is often illegal because it is a way round paying tax and national insurance, also you lose out on a lot of the rights because your employment contract is not valid." ______________________________________________________ Cytat: "The Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill was published yesterday (22 June), as part of the Government’s five-year strategy on immigration and asylum. The strategy was outlined in February in the report Controlling our borders: Making migration work for Britain. The Bill takes forward those elements of the strategy that require primary legislation. Among the proposed measures that will have a direct effect on employers, a new civil penalties scheme will be introduced, under which employers will face fines of up to £2,000 per illegal employee, plus a possible two-year custodial sentence and unlimited fine for those found knowingly to use or exploit illegal workers." "HOUSEHOLDERS who employ illegal workers, including nannies, face fines or even jail under proposals published yesterday to tackle illegal migrant working. On-the-spot fines of £2,000 per illegal worker will now be imposed on employers or businesses. Firms or individuals who “knowingly” employ an illegal worker face a jail term of up to two years under the latest asylum and immigration Bill, published yesterday. But householders whose cleaners, gardeners and window cleaners are here illegally will not be affected in the new clampdown. Under the law, they are considered to be purchasing a service rather than employing the person. However, a person who has a nanny working exclusively for him, which means paying her National Insurance and providing her with holidays, will be covered by the proposal." wiec pewnie deportowac Polakow nie beda - po prostu kary za zatrudnianie na czarno odstrasza wiekszosc potencjalnych pracodawcow.


ankalka	Post #6 2006-02-19 11:16 (3 lata temu)
Posty: 2 Z nami od: 16-02-2006	czyli definicja nielegalnego zatrudnienia jest nie placenie podatkow NIN itp....co z praca w przypadku gdy placisz podatki i NIN i nie zarejstowales sie w HO po miesiacu od rozpoczecia zatrudnienia??? ulotka z HO mowi ze wtedy po miesiacu praca staje sie nielegalna i pracodawca moze zaplacic kare....? ale jak i czy moga to namierzyc? odpowiedzcie prosez jesli ktos wie bo ja pracuje juz dwa miesiace i nie jestem zarejstrowana mam NIN i place podatki i nie wiem co robic....

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1. nie placisz podatkow i jak cie IR w koncu dopadnie to bedziesz miec przesrane :-]

2. nie placisz NI wiec jesli zdecydujesz sie np zostac w UK to albo bedziesz musial doplacic sobie do funduszu emerytalnego, albo tej emerytury nie dostaniesz. to samo w PL - czas przepracowany na czarno tutaj nie bedzie sie liczyl do emerytury...
3. twoje prawa pracownika sa zerowe, nie istnieja. jesli wywala cie z pracy to nawet nie mozesz sie odwolac. jak nagle zachorujesz i bedziesz niezdolny do pracy to nie dostaniesz zadej zapomogi. jak przydarzy ci sie wypadek w pracy to predzej cie wywala na zbity pysk niz zaplaca odszkodowanie.
4. nie masz numeru NI, wiec zycie w UK ogolnie bedzie raczej problemowe

Some employers may offer you a job without paying National Insurance or tax (known as “cash in hand”). This is against the law. If they are breaking this law, it is very likely they will break other employment laws as well, especially those that protect workers. It will be very hard for you to enforce any of your legal rights if you are not working legally. You should avoid this type of job. Note that your employer does not need to keep your passport or identity documents, and has no right to hold them. They may make copies of them for their records.

"My employer wants to pay me cash in hand. Is it a good idea?
It may sound good, you don't have to bother with all those boring payslips and you get a fatter pay packet. But for one thing it is often illegal because it is a way round paying tax and national insurance, also you lose out on a lot of the rights because your employment contract is not valid."

______________________________________________________

Cytat:

"The Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill was published yesterday (22 June), as part of the Government’s five-year strategy on immigration and asylum. The strategy was outlined in February in the report Controlling our borders: Making migration work for Britain.

The Bill takes forward those elements of the strategy that require primary legislation. Among the proposed measures that will have a direct effect on employers, a new civil penalties scheme will be introduced, under which employers will face fines of up to £2,000 per illegal employee, plus a possible two-year custodial sentence and unlimited fine for those found knowingly to use or exploit illegal workers."

"HOUSEHOLDERS who employ illegal workers, including nannies, face fines or even jail under proposals published yesterday to tackle illegal migrant working.

On-the-spot fines of £2,000 per illegal worker will now be imposed on employers or businesses. Firms or individuals who “knowingly” employ an illegal worker face a jail term of up to two years under the latest asylum and immigration Bill, published yesterday.

But householders whose cleaners, gardeners and window cleaners are here illegally will not be affected in the new clampdown. Under the law, they are considered to be purchasing a service rather than employing the person.

However, a person who has a nanny working exclusively for him, which means paying her National Insurance and providing her with holidays, will be covered by the proposal."

wiec pewnie deportowac Polakow nie beda - po prostu kary za zatrudnianie na czarno odstrasza wiekszosc potencjalnych pracodawcow.

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