Ja bardziej wierze w to co napisane niz to co mi urzednik powie, bo tu kazdy gada co innego.. Wiadomo warto zaciagnac info ale ja pierwsze raz slysze o tym, dlatego mnie to dziwi. Jak sie po 2 latach staralam o rezydenta a corka miala pare miesiecy to dostalam odpowiedz,ze musi ona przebywac w UK rowniez 2 lata ( czy starac sie od urodzenia po 2 latach) zeby dostac rezydenta.

Mamawiliama a Ty co o tym sadzisz?

Zrodlo: UK BORDER AGENCY

This page explains how a child born in the United Kingdom whose parents were not British citizens or settled in the United Kingdom at the time of the child's birth can meet the requirements to be registered as a British citizen.

Section 1(3) applications - children born in the United Kingdom to parents who are now settled in the United Kingdom
If the child's parent has become settled in the United Kingdom or becomes a British citizen, the child will have an entitlement to register as a British citizen. This registration would be under section 1(3) of the British Nationality Act 1981.

Section 1(4) - children who have lived in the United Kingdom for the first 10 years of their life
The child will have an entitlement to register under section 1(4) of the British Nationality Act 1981 if they were born in the United Kingdom on or after 1 January 1983 and lived in there for the first ten years of their life. Applications under this section of the British Nationality Act 1981 should be made using application form T. You should read can I register as a British citizen if I was born in the United Kingdom on or after 1 January 1983 and lived there up to the age of 10 for details on the requirements you need to meet.

Section 3(1) - illegitimate children of British citizen fathers
Until 1 July 2006 a child could not acquire British citizenship through his or her father if the parents were not married at the time of the birth. If the parents married after the birth, the child may now be considered legitimate.

A child born in the United Kingdom before 1 July 2006 can apply for registration as a British citizen at our discretion if all the following requirements are met:

we are satisfied about the paternity of the child; and
we have the consent of all those with parental responsibility; and
the child would have an automatic claim to British citizenship; or
the child would have an entitlement to register under sections 1(3), 3(2) or 3(5); or
we would normally have registered the child under section 3(1); and
Section 3(1) application - children who do not come under section 1(3) or section 1(4) whose parents are applying for British citizenship
If one or both of the child's parents are applying for British citizenship we may, if we believe it is reasonable under the circumstances, register the child under section 3(1) of the British Nationality Act 1981. We will normally only register the child if:

both parents are granted or already hold British citizenship; or
if one parent holds British citizenship and the other is settled in the United Kingdom.
Section 3(1) applications - children born in the United Kingdom to parents who are not settled in the United Kingdom and are not British citizens
Registration in this category will be at our discretion, if we believe it is reasonable under the circumstances and will be under section 3(1) of the British Nationality Act 1981. There are no formal requirements the child needs to meet providing they are under 18 at the time of application and are of good character if they are over 10 years of age. The application should be accompanied by as much evidence as possible to show us why the child should be registered as a British citizen."

[ Ostatnio edytowany przez: alfer74 06-08-2010 15:45 ]

a tu oficjalna ulotka UK BORDER AGENCY dotyczaca dzieci i praw do obywatelstwa.

Cytat:
"British citizen
12. A child born on or after 1 January 1983 who does not become a British citizen at birth may have a right to be registered as a British citizen if:
a. the child was born in the United Kingdom and one of the parents becomes a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom before the child is 18, or
b. the child was born in the United Kingdom and has lived in the United Kingdom until age 10, or
c. the child was born in a British overseas territory and one of the parents is a British citizen by descent, or
d. the child was born stateless (see paragraph 11)"




Tak wiec szukajcie u zrodla w przepisach a nie pytajcie jakoegos urzednika przez telefon. W razie jakiegokolwiek odwolywania sie od decyzji odmownych za podstawe odwolania podacie rozmowe przez telefon z anonimowym urzednikiem ? Ludzieee...

[ Ostatnio edytowany przez: alfer74 06-08-2010 15:41 ]

Usunięte

Usunięte

W takim razie ciekawa jestem jak mozna uzyskac paszport bez obywatelstwa?

"A passport is a document, issued by a national government, which certifies, for the purpose of international travel, the identity and nationality of its holder"

[ Ostatnio edytowany przez: Richmond 06-08-2010 16:29 ]

do mamawilliama26: czyli wedlug Ciebie pomimo iz przepisy emigracyjne mowia co innego powinienem sprobowac zlozyc podanie o paszport dla mojego dziecka? mieszkam tu 4,5 roku, od poczatku jestem zarejestrowany, ale jeszcze nie skladalem o stalego rezydenta, zrobie to za kilka miesiecy. Moj syn urodzil sie w Londynie w grudniu zeszlego roku. Co wedlug Ciebie powinienem zrobic ?

Sluszna uwaga Richmond

do mamawilliama26 - o paszport mozesz skladac kiedy do tego jestes uprawniona - o tym wlasnei mowia przepisy ktore caly czas wklejam.
Nie myle pojec... To tak samo jak np. Ukrainiec w PL chcial zlozyc podanie o paszport polski ale nie mial prawa stalego pobytu albo polskiego obywtelstwa. Jak myslisz jaka odpowiedz by otrzymal ?

Czasem urzad tez moze sie pomylic i wydac paszport, czasem pozniej moze go cofnac kiedy zorientuje sie, ze nastapila pomylka. Co wtedy ?

[ Ostatnio edytowany przez: alfer74 06-08-2010 16:35 ]

The parent will have become "settled" if:
-(...) has benn granted indefinite leave in the UK - status uchodzca
-(...) has been exercising EEA free movement rights in the UK for a continuous period of 5 years - czyli 5 lat rejestracji w Home Office (WRS)
Podsumowujac: dziecko moze sie ubiegac o paszport/obywatelstwo (to jest rownoznaczne, mamawilliama - uwierz mi po 10 latach swojego pobytu w UK lub razem z rodzicami po ich 5 latach od rejestracji WRS

[ Ostatnio edytowany przez: roztocz 06-08-2010 17:35 ]

roztocz - i wszystko w temacie AMEN

dodam tylko, ze w opcji 5 letniej o rejestracje dziecka jako obywatel brytyjski trzeba wystapic nim ukonczy ono 18 rok zycia, w innym wypadku bedzie musialo zaliczyc nastepne 5 lat pobytu wlacznie z WRS...

[ Ostatnio edytowany przez: alfer74 06-08-2010 17:40 ]

jak ukonczy to juz nie jest dzieckiem