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Marciniak zapomniałeś dodać że ofiarami włamywaczy są Polacy pobierający benefity

Czy mogę się dowiedzieć dlaczego ten, w mojej ocenie, bardzo obraźliwy tekst nie spotkał się z cenzurą, naganą itp. ze strony moderatora/administratora?

Podobno piętnujemy tutaj obrażanie innych.

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no i super, wlasnie taki alarm i osobistego ochroniarza w jednym sprawie sobie w przyszlym roku

Wracajac do dyskusji na temat glowny to chcialam polecic interesujaca ksiazke, ktora znalazlam rowniez on-line w postaci strony:

http://www.howto.co.uk/property/safe-home/

Opisane sa tam metody dzialania zlodziei, co najczesciej kradna i jak zabezpieczyc sie w miare mozliwosci. Jest tez dzial na temat traktowania zlodzieja.
http://www.howto.co.uk/property/safe-home/the_court_of_human_rights/

"We are not allowed to attack the burglar inside or outside our own homes, except in special circumstances, and while these may be difficult to establish at three in the morning with a hooded figure screaming at you, we are only allowed to use reasonable force."

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Z tym pytanie o parterowy domek, to sie usmialam, bystry komentarz, to moze pozostawie marciniakowi do odpowiedzi, co robi mieszkaniec domu parterowego....

Citizen's arrest
• Arrest for an "indictable offence" under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. (indictable offence- murder, rape, burglary, etc, sprawy tocza sie tylko w sadach koronnych)
• Arrest of persons committing, or about to commit a Breach of the Peace under common law. (Breach of peace- zaklocanie spokoju, za breach of peace policja zatrzymuje do czasu kiedy zagrozenie zakocania spokoju mija)
• Use of reasonable force to prevent crime or arrest offenders or persons unlawfully at large under the Criminal Law Act 1967.

Uwaga: jesli pozniej zostanie udowodnione, ze osoba zatrzymana nie popelnila zadnego przestepstwa (czyli np ktos podejrzewal, ale nie mial zadnych dowodow, ze osoba ktora postanowic zatrzymac, nie dzialala bezprawnie), osoba zatrzymujaca moze odpowiadac za nielegalne zatrzymanie.


Reasonable force
Prawo mowi, ze osoby moga uzyc sily (adekwatnej)jesli :

* they acted instinctively;

* they feared for their safety or that of others, and acted based on their perception of the threat faced and the scale of that threat;

* they acted to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained; and

* the level of force used was not excessive or disproportionate in the circumstances as they viewed them.


Crown Prosecution Service - info dla mieszkancow na temat uzycia sily w stosunku do napastnika

Examples of householders or victims not being prosecuted include:

* Robbery at a newsagent's. One of the two robbers died after being stabbed by the newsagent. The CPS did not prosecute the newsagent but prosecuted the surviving robber who was jailed for six years;

* A householder returned home to find a burglar in his home. There was a struggle during which the burglar hit his head on the driveway and later died. No prosecution of householder who was clearly acting in self-defence;

* Armed robbers threatened a pub landlord and barmaid with extreme violence. The barmaid escaped, fetched her employer's shotgun and shot at least one of the intruders. Barmaid not prosecuted;

* Two burglars entered a house armed with a knife and threatened a woman. Her husband overcame one of the burglars and stabbed him. The burglar died. There was no prosecution of the householder but the remaining burglar was convicted;

* A middle aged female took a baseball bat off a burglar and hit him over the head, fracturing his skull. The burglar made a complaint but the CPS refused to prosecute.

Examples where prosecutions for excessive use of force did result include:

* A man laid in wait for a burglar on commercial premises, caught him, tied him up, beat him, threw him into a pit and set fire to him;

* A number of people trespassed on private land to go night-time fishing. They were approached by a man with a shotgun who threatened to shoot them. They ran away but one of the men was shot in the back with a mass of 40 shotgun pellets;

* A householder lay in wait for a burglar who tried to burgle his shed. The householder shot him in the back.

(sorry, ale musze wnuczka karmic i nie mam teraz czasu wszystkiego po polsku napisac )